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classique Michael Moore?
Published on September 21, 2004 By Muggaz In Democrat
This is Michael Moores rally to the Democrats, I dont know what he is talking about, but everywhere I look, Bush is winning the election - is he instilling false hope in the bumbling Kerry campaign? or is he giving the republicans something else to laugh at pointlessly... I just wish people would focus on Policies rather than speculate...

I think he hits the nail on the head when he talk's about seperating 9/11 and Iraq - It has turned to shit, and I think Kerry is your best hope out of that quagmire... We shall see over the next few month's I guess... anything can happen...


9/20/04

Dear Friends,

Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the defeatism, OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining and bellyaching and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies. Geez, this is embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do you ever see them cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush can't win! Waaaaaa!"

Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded. They are never finished -- they just keeping moving forward like sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking, lying.

They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls itself "Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority of the governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull that off considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you and me and every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the rest of the day wreaking havoc on the planet.

Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after his convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes, they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"

No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.

Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-ass campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president -- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we have. Oprah just gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of them frowning and moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin' Pontiac!" Of course not, they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four wheels, an engine and a gas pedal. You want more than that, well, I can't help you. I had a Pontiac once and it lasted a good year. And it was a VERY good year.

My friends, it is time for a reality check.

1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had them both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.: One, they are polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who have consistently voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out young people who are voting for the first time and a ton of non-voters who are definitely going to vote in THIS election. Second, they are not polling people who use their cell phone as their primary phone. Again, that means they are not talking to young people. Finally, most of the polls are weighted with too many Republicans, as pollster John Zogby revealed last week. You are being snookered if you believe any of these polls.

2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.

3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell ya, there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not being captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is real. Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers -- everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).

4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11" (the fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job we are doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you might have noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we used to call Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess of a quagmire and the body bags will sadly only mount higher. Regardless of what Kerry meant by his original war vote, he ain't the one who sent those kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs. Middle America knows it. Had Bush bothered to show up when he was in the "service" he might have somewhat of a clue as to how to recognize an immoral war that cannot be "won." All he has delivered to Iraq was that plasticized turkey last Thanksgiving. It is this failure of monumental proportions that is going to cook his goose come this November.

So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people need you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back into your easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you contemplate another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to wish we had a candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as smart as we were when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam planning 9/11. It's like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry voted for the war...Kerry voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted fooooor theeee warrrrrrrrrr..."

Yes...Yes...Yesssss...He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting now...what I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...

WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans are pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the war is wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS -- YOU JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE POLLS. CAN YOU DO THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?

Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our hands. Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can bitch all you want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who once had the courage to stand up for something. Personally, I think that kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the inner soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we now so desperately face. Do we have any other choice?

Yours,

Michael Moore


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on Sep 21, 2004
Good post. You should check out this link also:

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on Sep 21, 2004
And this from someone who wants the coalition to win in oz??? I dont get it?
on Sep 21, 2004

Reply #2 By: Phoenixboi - 9/21/2004 8:40:43 AM
And this from someone who wants the coalition to win in oz??? I dont get it?


Were you referring to me or the original poster?
on Sep 21, 2004
I was referring to Muggaz... A vote for howard is the same as a vote for bush.
on Sep 21, 2004
Good post. I personally like his letter. Maybe it's because I'm not actually a Democrat, but I am full of hope and piss and vinegar about this election. My daughter and I are doing our part to rally the troops! I hope everyone else does the same very soon.
on Sep 21, 2004
the fat general is the funniest moron i ever saw. the demos need more idiots like him. at second thought, i guess they have plenty like him. haheeehaaahahahahhheeeehahahahaha!
on Sep 21, 2004
Good post. I personally like his letter. Maybe it's because I'm not actually a Democrat, but I am full of hope and piss and vinegar about this election. My daughter and I are doing our part to rally the troops! I hope everyone else does the same very soon.


The problem WiseFawn, is that there are getting fewer and fewer troops. Just yesterday, the two co-works, which said they where loyal Democrats and Kerry supporters a few weeks ago, have changed their mind. They are actually going to vote for Bush and were openly critizing Kerry and the leadership of the DNC. Note: One I would consider moderate the other progressive.

It really shocked me.

The reason? Kerry himself. Michael Moore is right, the Democratic Party got stuck with a bad choice. Unfortunately the Democrats are trying to put lipstick on a pig.

Both co-workers said that if Kerry's post Vietnam record was brought out in the primaries, then this mess would not have happened. Then as the election continued, they got more and more disheartened as the DNC kept calling the President everything under the sun. They don't like Bush policies very much, but they are intelligent enough to know that he is not half as bad as the DNC makes him out to be. They are starting to believe "the party is being run by people who act like children that no longer hold their beliefs".

Michael Moore says that he is not a Democrat. That may be the problem. The Democrat party is no longer being run by Democrats, but a bunch of radicals that either want to drag the party so far left they will no longer talk to anybody else or just have gotten so blinded that they have let themselves sink into a hate filled world no longer caring about Joe Democrat and will do anything to stay in power.

Rep. Ford (D), when he tried to become House Minority Leader, got bitch slapped by the party for even talking about reforming the party. The sad thing is, I think he was right.

PS: Those co-workers brought the subject up themselves. I personally think politics does not belong in the work place, only on the web like here.
on Sep 21, 2004
The Democrats need us non-Democrat liberals. They're so wishy washy namby-pamby politically correct they've forgotten how to actually stand up for something and fight. I'd like to kick John Kerry's ass so far up between his shoulders that he can hear his buttcheeks clapping.
on Sep 21, 2004
the fat general is the funniest moron i ever saw. the demos need more idiots like him. at second thought, i guess they have plenty like him.


Yeah, that's helpful. Not like the Right doesn't have its own fat morons, both in the party and in the media. I have an idea. Let's try to find better ways to denigrate the opponent.

The Democrat party is no longer being run by Democrats, but a bunch of radicals that either want to drag the party so far left they will no longer talk to anybody else or just have gotten so blinded that they have let themselves sink into a hate filled world no longer caring about Joe Democrat and will do anything to stay in power.


Who the heck are you talking about???? The Dems wouldn't know a radical if it sprayed blood on their mink stoles. And as for being pulled too far to the Left, this country doesn't know what the Left is. We're too busy using "liberal" as a scare word to brand fairly centrist folks with.
on Sep 21, 2004
Bungy

My point is that many core Democrats are changing their mind. They feel that the people leading the party by the nose are not one of them.

The farther you want to drag the core down the left road the more will leave.

In your opinion, if the people who are not Pinkos they aren't Democrats. The majority of Democratic core are moderates (In your eyes conservatives). The more you kick, scream and beat them over the head calling them dummies, the more they are willing to become independents and separate themselves from the party.

That's My Two Cents
on Sep 21, 2004
The Democrat party is no longer being run by Democrats, but a bunch of radicals that either want to drag the party so far left


Really? Who are these radicals that are doing this?
on Sep 21, 2004
The more you kick, scream and beat them over the head calling them dummies, the more they are willing to become independents and separate themselves from the party.


Actually, I am only a little Left of centrist myself. My point is that these sweeping assertions that the far-Left is alienating the base of the Dems has no real evidentiary support. If anything, plenty of non-Dems seem to be rallying to the Kerry cause (hence the all too common phrase, "I'm not a Democrat but I will be voting for Kerry because...").

Yes, each side can find a testimonial or two from someone who has changed camps. But I submit that the GOP is suffering more name calling and head beating from an actual far-Right agenda than the the Democrats are from a far-Left agenda. The fact that fairly moderate and centrist folks are deemed "radicals" and "pinkos" is pretty good evidence of this. *ahem*

But lets return to the question both I and now RATM4EVA have posed:

Really? Who are these radicals that are doing this?


The GOP has tried to paint Kerry as a radical liberal (the 4th most liberal Senator by a completely objective and scientific poll -- yeah right). The Clinton's get evoked as radical liberals (gimme a break!). If anything, the radical liberals are the ones that are leaving the Dems and joining the Greens or other hopeless causes. What's left of the Dems has a hard time maintaining significant differences between their platform and the (moderate majority of the) GOPs. If anything, the Dems are trying to woo back the radicals with promises that compromise will not kill them (Moore's letter is a "good" example of this). Meanwhile, the GOP has a field day with the divisiveness.


on Sep 21, 2004
Meanwhile, the GOP has a field day with the divisiveness.


As evidenced by open attempts by GOP campaigners to get Nader on the ballot in several battleground states.
on Sep 21, 2004
The Fat General Rallies the Bumbling Democrats!


Michael should worry about getting his weight down, and being in a healthy shape before he worries about others. I mean if the man wants to not suffer from a heart disease (the number 1 cause of death in the US), he should look into eating right, some excercise, etc.
on Sep 21, 2004
See the thing is, Mr. Fat General is right. We may not like kerry, but hes better to some of us people that care about people freedoms than bush. Hes better to some of us people who see fiscal responsibility as important. Hes better for some of us who see having a rationalizing, compasionate, prochoice president as a better thing than a non-fiscally conservative wannabe GOP rascal.
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