Yes. Jews and whites are the world's problems, while the Arab nations are the victims.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit mate... and it's not very constructive at all... People are influencing the way you think every day without you knowing it... It must be hard living in the US...

BAM!!!

David, it takes some real twisting of logic to somehow say that the US is more at fault for the deaths of Jewish people than the people who actually murdered them.  Until 1945, few people knew what was going on over in Europe. There are people wanting to come to the US from all over the world, it wasn't like Jewish people were black listed from entering the US. They simply were considered another European on the list of people who wanted to immigrate.

. Until 1945, few people knew what was going on over in Europe. There are people wanting to come to the US from all over the world, it wasn't like Jewish people were black listed from entering the US. They simply were considered another European on the list of people who wanted to immigrate

i generally am impressed by your grasp and understanding of 20th century history, but each of those sentences contains significant innacurracies:

in the early 40s, the us and britain were aware of the death camps, the details of the nazi final solution, and the use of gas to further it at chelmno a report smuggled to london from poland estimated 700,000 jews had already been killed.

in the late 30s, anti-semitism (egged on by father coughlin who had a large radio audience) was a fact of life in the us. in 1939, 53% of those polled agreed that jewish immigration should be restricted. the state dept actively worked to block jewish refugees from landing in the us assistant secretary of state long's wrote a memo that was distributed to us embassies that included the following: :

"We can delay and effectively stop for a temporary period of indefinite length the number of immigrants into the United States, We could do this by simply advising our consuls to put every obstacle in the way which would postpone and postpone and postpone the granting of visas."

in 1939 congress refused to raise emigration quotas for jewish refugees to permit 20,000 jewish kids to enter the country.
during that same year, a passenger ship (the st louis) sailed from germany to cuba carrying 900 jewish refugees. upon its arrival in havana, only a few of its passengers were permitted to land and the st louis headed for florida. after a week of being refused a port--despite frantic telegrams from those on board to roosevelt--it had no choice but to return to europe where 300 of the refugees were taken in by britain. the rest were sent to france and belgium which were soon occupied by the nazis and nearly all of those were eventually killed in death camps.

only 132,000 to 190,000 jewish refugees were admitted to the us between 1933-1945. (there seems to be a 60,000 discrepancy but either way the number was considerably lower than the appicable quota for that time period--due in large part to the excessive amounts and types of documentation required as part of long's strategy).

henry morgenthau, the only jewish member of roosevelts cabinent finally shamed the president into action in january 1944 by presenting him with a "Report to the Secretary on the Acquiescence of this Government in the Murder of the Jews." in response, roosevelt established the war refugee board leading to the establishment of refugee camps for jews in italy, north aftrica and the us.

during those same years, 25,000 jewish refugees were permitted to land in shanghai, china--more than the combined total accepted by australia, canada, india, south africa and new zealand.

Kingbee:  I simply disagree. Yes, there were reports of atrocities coming out of Europe during the 40s but people were skeptical. Roosevelt, in particular, was skeptical because of the false accusations of German atrocities from World War I.

It is sometimes ignored by history but most of the people who died in the Holocaust were not Jews. There were massive numbers of refugees trying to fleet Europe throughout the 30s and 40s. To accuse the USA of somehow being responsbile for the deeds commited in Europe simply because US immigration didn't give preferential treatment to Jews is absurd.

I remind you that even AFTER 9/11, the same immigration department renewed the visas of the dead terrorist hijackers. Don't ascribe to malice what is more likely due to ineptitude.

But what is illuminating is the singular blame: The United States. No matter how absurd a claim is or how much reality has to be stretched to meet it, some people will blame the United States.  What about Canada and Australia? They are on landmasses that are sparely populated. Why not blame them if we're going to start blaming countries. It's still ridiculous to blame anyoen but the people who were involved in the murdering. 

There was certainly widespread anti-semitism in the world in 1939. But it's not an either / or thing.  Americans, Canadians, and Australians would never have considered wholesale extermination of someone simply because they were Jewish.  In Europe, by contrast, Germany and many of the eastern European countries along with France actively participated in it.

But what is illuminating is the singular blame

i wasnt singling any country out in my first response. i was presenting a timeline thats fairly well documented. you must have missed the comment below that one in which i pointed out the fact that australia, canada, south africa, new zealand and india (all of which were, at that point, dominions or realms of the british empire) accepted only 25,000 jewish refugees during the same period of time.

expanding the concept of holocaust to include every group of people the nazis killed in large numbers (say 14 million non-jewish poles, slavs, pows and soviet nationals) ignores one crucial distinction: those victims--while just as dead of course--weren't specifically targeted for annihilation like the jews, rom and the genetically impaired. homosexuals were killed in the camps but there was no systematic strategy for wiping out non-jewish, non-communist homosexuals (very likely because there were a number of gay high-ranking nazis) similar to buhler and heydrich's wannsee conference 'endlösung der judenfrage' accord.. of the groups that were officially singled out for extermination, jews outnumbered the others by millions vs several hundred thousands.