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In Australia!!!
Published on July 7, 2004 By Muggaz In International
With the imminent release of Fahrenheit 9/11 in Australia, it was only a matter of time before Michael Moore chimed in with his opinion on Australian politics… Personally, I am a fan of Michael Moore, and what he stands for – sure, I don’t agree with some of his methods, and he is the master of misinformation, but as far as I am concerned, he doesn’t really have the faintest idea on Australian politics, so he really shouldn’t make inflammatory remarks directed towards our government.

At a news conference for foreign correspondents in New York, Moore said Mr. Howard's decision to get "in bed" with Mr. Bush was "disgraceful", and he hoped that after seeing his film Australian voters would seek "regime change".

"I get a lot of mail from Australia," Moore said. "I probably get per capita more mail from Australia than from any other country. A lot of angry Australians, I never realised how angry, and I don't think just because they are living in Australia, right?

"No, I mean, I realise, it's like, you're living on an island, but you're also a country, but you're also a continent. So I know there's a lot of confusion there, right? But what's confusing to me is how is it that someone like John Howard could get in bed with George W. Bush?

"Not to give Mr. Howard too much credit, but he at least appears to have half a brain. Half, I said. Half. I'm being generous. But, I mean, what is he doing with George W. Bush? It's really disgraceful.

"And the Australian people, according to all the polls, don't approve of being part of the coalition of the willing. And I hope the same thing happens to (Howard) that happened to the leader of Spain."


This is where Mr. Moore is wrong. As an Australian, it is within our national interests to form an allegiance with our most culturally close neighbor. Whether the decision to invade Iraq was right or wrong, Australia was always going to lend its support to the USA – a nation that saved us from the Japanese invaders in World War II, and a nation we share a great friendship with today. We may not approve of the war in Iraq, but we certainly support the allegiance we have formed with the USA.

Change comes from the inside, and as America's ally, they are more likely to listen to what we say... these are delusions of grandeur on Australias part, but our opinion as an ally is more likely to be respected then that of a detractor...

If Michael Moore cared about Australia, he might know a little more about our great country, and he might realise that the labor party (the current opposition) are nothing but a bunch of policy detractors, and if they were running the country, Australia would not be experiencing out best economic period ever, Australia would not have global respect, or notoriety – it depends which way you look at it, and our country would generally be in a downward spiral… this is one Australian’s opinion, and it counts for more than one American – no matter how large he is.

It would be extremely un-Australian to disengage from Iraq at this point in time. Admitted, the situation is grave, and certainly messy, but we must stick by our allies to the end, and show them the true grit Australian’s are made of. I don’t know what effect this movie will have on the American polls in November – I sure hope that our polls aren’t affected by the opinion of an outsider - that would be a shame indeed.

BAM!!!

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on Jul 08, 2004
I disagree, a withdrawl now might diffuse alot of anti-american sentiment by denying people a target.

Somehow I can't see a continued presence on an increasingly volitile situation as a good thing. I can see it now, 'aussie marine tells shi'ite clerk to take it easy and have a beer' lol.

I would be concerned about the jordinians shipping kurds into the country in an effort to have a voice over the shi'ites. Remember Iran and Jordan aren't drinking buddies.

One thing that 14 months of occupation has shown is that foreigners aren't understanding the bitter rivalries between groups.

Cut the losses
on Jul 08, 2004
Indeed. What Michael Moore doesn't understand is that a regime change is only wise if 1) the current regime is bad enough to warrant it and 2) the alternative is possibly better. Why rock the entire boat when only one small plank is the problem (and in the case of the Iraqi war, Oz isn't taking as much damage in terms of casualties and resources as the US and the UK, right?)?

this is one Australian’s opinion, and it counts for more than one American – no matter how large he is.


on Jul 08, 2004
disagree, a withdrawl now might diffuse alot of anti-american sentiment by denying people a target.


I seriously doubt that the Iraqis dislike the American soldiers because there are Australian troops in Iraq. Outside of Howard's and possibly George Bush's mind I don't think anyone, anywhere would care if Australia bailed or doesn't. It plays well to the domestic audiences and to the American government, if it ever bother to spend any time thinking about Australia.
on Jul 09, 2004
Why rock the entire boat when only one small plank is the problem


In Oz the whole Howard government is the problem..he lies through his teeth and is the most dispicable politician in australia. (i think).

Now we have deputy secretary of state trying to butt in on our politics..Did anyone see the interview with Frazer last night ??

on Jul 09, 2004
In Oz the whole Howard government is the problem..he lies through his teeth and is the most dispicable politician in australia.


I know what you are saying PB - Howard is a bit of a loser... but he has a good party behind him, and in my opinion, the Labor party isn't fit to govern Australia, no matter who is heading it up.

BAM!!!
on Jul 09, 2004
the Labor party isn't fit to govern Australia, no matter who is heading it up.


Neither are the liberals... we need a new party ...wanna start one?
on Jul 09, 2004
I used to like the Democrats until they dropped Natasha, but now I'm old enough to fully understand their policies, I can't support them any more.

the Labor party isn't fit to govern Australia, no matter who is heading it up


I wouldn't go so far as to say the Labor Party isn't fit to lead Australia. Traditionally Australia has had the Labor Party to make reforms and look after the little people and the Liberals to clean up the mess that this makes of the economy. With the two parties growing closer together I think they're probably both equally unsuited to taking power. And personally I don't trust Tony Abbott, Amanda Vanstone, Darryl Williams, Christopher Pike or the walking dead, otherwise known as our beloved former immigration minister and now attorney-general. The thought of them with another term in office is frightening. However the thought of dull man Crean with the keys to the treasury and the borderline crazy Latham in power is equally unappetising, so really I don't know who I'll vote for.
on Jul 11, 2004
Neither are the liberals... we need a new party ...wanna start one?


Maybe we can get Pauly and Wes from Big Brother in on it... Paul's political beleifs are pretty well alligned with mine! Well, from what I have seen anyway... and I am sure you and I could formulate some excellent Policy PB?

Isn't the task of policy formulation just so daunting though? there are so many considerations!!!

Cactoblasta, I totally agree with you, but I am going with the 'aint broke - dont fix' mentality rather than the 'new blood will fix everything' mentality some people seem to be adopting... Join our new party when we get it of the ground!

BAM!!!
on Jul 11, 2004
What would we call it Muggaz??
And what would be the policies you would adopt?
on Jul 11, 2004
And what would be the policies you would adopt?


I have the perfect platform... though it is aimed at Americans.
on Jul 11, 2004
What would we call it Muggaz??
And what would be the policies you would adopt?


The people's conformist fundamentalist party!

Haha...

Policy #1 - Fat men can rant and rave about Politics in their own country, and internationally, but they can't try and influence the voting population in domestic politics of another country - punishable by a rigid diet of celery and rice biscuits.

BAM!!!
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